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RABBIS OPPOSING THE METZIZAH

 

IT IS NOTHING NEW THAT SOME HERETICAL RABBIS WHO HAVE PROBLEMS  REGARDING JEWISH RITES WANT TO FORCE OTHER JEWS TO FOREGO THE TRADITIONS WE HAVE RECEIVED FROM MOSHE FROM MOUNT SINAI

 

Recently individuals are seeking to abolish Metzitzah Bepeh, a practice that has been our tradition since the days of Moshe Rabeinu. This battle for the uphoiding of our tradition of Metzitzah Bepeh has been fought by gedolim of previous generations who successfully established the standards of authentic Brit Miiah. And now, individuals have focused their attention on an unfortunate incident and are fabricating the alleged culpability of a prominent expert Mohel. We know with definitive clarity that this is totally and unequivocally false. This unfortunate incident has absolutely no connection, at all to the profession of MiIah.

 

Commitee for Preservation of Authentic Brith Milah

PO Box 642 Brooklyn, N.Y. 11219

 

 

 

ב"ה, דער בלאַט, יום ו' פרשת יתרו, י"ח שבט, תשס"ה,

מצות מילה כדת וכהלכה בסכנה בגלל בלבול ומסירה

רב אורטודוקסי במונסי מלשין למשרד הבריאות של מדינת ניו-יורק

ניו יורק. – ממקורות מוסמכים בחוג הרבני וממוהלים חרדיים ועסקנים נודע לעיתון "דער בלאַט", שקיימת סכנה שיהודים חרדים לא יוכלו לקיים מצות מילה כדת וכהלכה בדרך המקובלת לנו מדור דור.

לפי הדיווחים שקבלנו, לדאבוננו, יד ישראל באמצע. ואם לא די בכך הרי שמדובר באחד שלבוש ב"איצטלא דרבנן", שפנה למשרד הבריאות של מדינת ניו-יורק, בטענה שמוהלים חרדים מבצעים בריתות מילה לא לפי החוק והוראות משרד הבריאות, דבר שעלול לגרום למחלות שונות אצל הרך הנולד.

"רב" זה, שגר במונסי, ספרינג וואַלי, הוא פופולרי מאד אצל החוגים האורטודוקסים-המודרניים ובעבר כבר גרם למחלוקת בקרב היהדות האורטודוקסית על ידי הוראותיו ופסקיו המשונות שלא לפי ההלכה.

עתה לקח על עצמו "רב" זה להאבק נגד יסודות מקובלים בהלכה בעניני ברית מילה ובעיקר "מציצה בפה", שרבותינו הקדושים מדורות הקודמים זי"ע ולהבחל"ח הרבנים הגאונים והצדיקים אשר אתנו שליט"א לחמו במסירות נפש לא לשנות אפילו כקוצו של יו"ד.

ה"רב" מאיים על מוהלים, שיגרום לכך שיאסרו אותם בבית הסוהר, אם יבצעו מציצה בפה, בטענה שהדבר מהווה סכנה לתינוק.

לפי בקשתם של כמה רבנים חשובים ומוהלים שליט"א, היושבים בימים אלה ודנים בכובד ראש בדרכים להעביר את רוע הגזירה, להפסיק את ההלשנה וההסתה, אנו נמנעים מלהאריך ולהכנס לפרטים, וכולנו מתפללים שיצליחו להעביר את רוע הגזירה ונוכל לקיים את המצוה כדת וכהלכה.

 

 

 

ב"ה, (תורגם מאנגלית) MSNBC

רב נאבק נגד עריכת ברית מילה לתינוקות בדרך המקובלת

תינוק נפטר מוירוס (Herpes) לאחר הברית

משרד הבריאות בניו-יורק חוקר את הסיבה לפטירת תינוק, שהיה אחד משלושה תינוקות שקיבלו את הוירוס לאחר עריכת ברית מילה על ידי ראבאי.

עשרה ימים לאחר שהרב יצחק פישר ערך את הטקס הדתי של ברית מילה על שני תינוקות תאומים בחודש אוקטובר האחרון, נפטר אחד מהם מוירוס וגם השני נדבק בוירוס, לפי התביעה של משרד הבריאות בבית המשפט הגבוה במנהטן.

בתביעה, שהופיעה בעיתון "דיילי ניוז" ביום רביעי, נאמר גם שנמצא תינוק שלישי שקיבל את הוירוס לאחר שעבר ברית מילה אצל פישר בסוף שנת 2003.

לפי ההלכה היהודית, מוהל – אחד שעשה ברית מילה – מוציא דם מהתינוק. רוב המוהלים עושים את זה ביד על ידי מכשיר מיוחד, אבל פישר משתמש בדרך של המיעוט האורטודוקסי ומוציא דם על ידי מציצה בפה, לאחר שחותך את העור.

בדרך זו עלול התינוק לקבל את הוירוס, בגלל שה"אימיון סיסטעם" עדיין לא מפותח אצלו. מחקר שפורסם לאחרונה בעיתון "פאדיאטריקס" מצא שהדרך הישנה (מציצה בפה) מעמיד את התינוק בסכנה לקבל וירוסים שונים ושלא יערכו מציצה בדרך זו.

עורך הדין של פישר, מארק קורצמאן, אמר לעיתון "דיילי ניוז" שפישר משתף פעולה עם חוקרי המשטרה, למרות שלא ברור מה מסר פישר בקשר לבקשת העירייה בקשר לבדיקת הדם שלו.

[כתבה זו (באנגלית) הוכן על ידי "אַסאָסיאייטעד פּרעס"]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

New York Daily News - http://www.nydailynews.com

Fear rabbi gave tots herpes
By MAGGIE HABERMAN
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER
Wednesday, February 2nd, 2005

City health officials are investigating whether a baby boy died after contracting herpes from the rabbi who circumcised him, the Daily News has learned.

The probe was launched after city officials realized that three infants in the city who tested positive for herpes last year all were circumcised by Rabbi Yitzchok Fischer. The Rockland County-based Fischer is a prominent mohel - someone who performs religious circumcisions.

Under Jewish law, a mohel is supposed to draw blood from the circumcision wound to remove impurities. While many mohels do it by hand, Fischer uses a practice little known outside ultra-Orthodox communities called metzizah bi peh, in which the mohel uses his mouth.

On Oct. 16, 2004, Fischer performed a bris, or religious circumcision, on twins. Ten days later, one infant died of herpes, and the other tested positive for the virus, according to papers filed in Manhattan Supreme Court by city lawyers.

A few weeks later, city Health Department officials found a third baby, on Staten Island, who also tested positive for herpes after being circumcised by Fischer in late 2003, the papers say.

Herpes is far more dangerous to infants than adults because of babies' fragile immune systems. The health status of the two surviving boys was not clear yesterday.

The city "is concerned that the possible transmission of herpes simplex virus type 1 in infants may be continuing as a result of defendant's practice of metzizah bi peh," city lawyers wrote in the complaint, dated Dec. 22. "Defendant's conduct to date constitutes a threat to the public health."

The custom of metzizah is thousands of years old. But experts said that these days, many mohels breathe in through a sterile tube to draw the blood instead of using their mouths directly on the wound, although in some ultra-Orthodox sects, the oral practice is mandatory.

The city asked Fischer to submit to a blood test in November, and ordered him to stop performing metzizah by mouth while waiting for the results, court papers show. Officials told him to use a sterile tube and gloves in the meantime.

But the Health Department got a report that Fischer wasn't following the order, so the city filed the legal complaint to compel him do so.

Fischer, 66, declined to comment yesterday.

His lawyer, Mark Kurzmann, wouldn't say whether Fischer has done the blood test, citing medical confidentiality. But he said Fischer is "cooperating with the city's investigation to resolve this matter."

"My client is known internationally as a caring, skilled and conscientious mohel," Kurzmann said.

He suggested the babies could have contracted herpes elsewhere. He also said there are concerns about the government regulating religious practices.

City lawyers declined to comment.

Health officials, aware of the sensitivity of the issue, have been talking extensively to community leaders.

"There's been a constructive dialogue between the community and the Department of Health, and we're working with [them] to ensure the safety of all our city's children," said Arie Lipnic, spokesman for City Councilman Simcha Felder (D-Brooklyn).

 

 

 

Any Mohel who annuls and disregards the customs and traditions we have received from our forefathers as regards to the Mitzvah of Milah, Periah and Metzitza, has to be removed from his post. (Sheelot uTshuvot Levushe Mordechai from Rav Mordechai Epstein mi Slobodka)

 

 

 

WE HAVE A NEW MOSHE IN THE WORLD: HIS NAME IS DR. MOSHE TENDLER AND HE IS REQUESTING TO ANNUL SOME PARTS OF OUR TRADITIONS AS WE HAVE RECEIVED THEM FROM MOSHE RABBENU

 HE PROBABLY WANTS TO APPEAR CIVILIZED AMONG HIS FELLOW RESEARCHERS, THAT MEANS ALL JEWS HAVE TO STOP PRACTICING THE MILAH AS THEY HAVE BEEN DOING IT FOR THE PAST 4,000 YEARS

 

 

 

From: Canadian Jewish News

Researchers warn against oral suction during circumcision

By PAUL LUNGEN
Staff Reporter

An ancient procedure that is part of ritual circumcisions, and which has been found to spread herpes and other dangerous illnesses is still used in Toronto, though infrequently.

Oral metzitzah, the practice in which a mohel sucks blood from an infant’s circumcised penis, has been supplanted by more hygienic and effective ways of cleaning the wound, said Dr. Aaron Jesin, a Toronto-based mohel. While metzitzah remains a required part of the circumcision ritual, most practitioners employ a glass tube to clean the wound, he said.

However, there are groups in Toronto today who continue to employ mohels who use oral metzitzah, said Rabbi Moshe Mordechai Lowy, a spokesman for the Orthodox Va’ad Harabonim in Toronto. “Those in the Torah world, the yeshiva world, use the procedure, unless there’s a problem,” he said.

Last month, a group of researchers in Canada and Israel published a report in the medical journal Pediatrics, which found eight babies who were infected with the herpes virus likely contracted their illnesses through oral metzitzah. Most of the infants were found in Israel but one, who was circumcised in 1994, was from Toronto.

The researchers’ report, published in the journal’s Aug. 2 edition, stated that in the cases studied, infection was transmitted by the mohel to the infant orally. All the mohels involved in the circumcisions tested positive for the herpes antibody.

One of the children became seriously ill with encephalitis, while the Toronto baby spent 26 days in hospital, the report noted.

“Our findings provide evidence that ritual Jewish circumcision with oral metzitzah may cause oral-genital transmission of HSV infection, resulting in clinical disease...Furthermore, oral suction may not only endanger the child but also may expose the mohel to human immuno-deficiency virus or hepatitis B from infected infants. The same conclusion that led the talmudic sages once to establish the custom of metzitzah for the sake of the infant could now be applied to persuade the mohel to use instrumental suction,” the researchers concluded.

Dr. Gideon Koren, professor in the department of clinical pharmacology and toxicology at the Hospital for Sick Children and the University of Toronto, is one of the authors of the report. He believes “some mohels still use their mouths for suction, but [they] use plastic pipes.”

Even in Israel, he said, oral suction is employed “by a small minority and by all accounts, the rabbinut (rabbinic councils) told them to stop it. It’s not a system that mainstream Judaism uses. I wouldn’t even imagine a backward and primitive procedure [like that] still exists.”

Given the existence of anti-Semitism, “the last thing we need is people to say Jews are abusing children,” Koren added.

Jesin said he used oral metzitzah a few times when he first began as a mohel in 1978 but soon gave it up. He now uses a glass tube, which he said complies with the Gemarah requirement “to draw the blood from the far places (within the wound),” he said.

Jesin cited renowned halachic authority Rabbi Moshe Tendler of Yeshiva University’s department of talmudic law and Jewish medical ethics, who asserts it is forbidden to perform metzitzah without an instrument.

Speaking from New York, Rabbi Tendler, one of the report’s co-authors, said the procedural elements of ritual circumcision are contained in the Talmud, which breaks down circumcision into three parts. In the first, orla, the foreskin is removed, while in the second, priah, the mucous layer is removed. The third part, metzitzah is clearly “a medical requirement, not a ritual requirement,” and so, can even be performed on the Sabbath, he said.

With advances in medical techniques and knowledge, mohels are required by Jewish law to do what is in the baby’s best interests, and that would mean following current medical thinking and avoiding oral suction of the penis, Rabbi Tendler said.

Rabbi Tendler said most mohels comply with this approach, but some chassidic groups, including Satmars and Lubavitch, still employ traditional methods.

Rabbi Lowy acknowledged that “haredim or those who feel they still want to go with the old way of thousands of years [of tradition] and they feel the mohel is careful” accept oral metzitzah.

He mentioned the Satmar, Bobov, Lubavitch and other communities who generally comply with the traditional way of performing metzitzah. ...

 

 

 

Circumcision Ritual Carries Herpes Risk

TUESDAY, Aug. 3 (HealthDayNews) -- Ritual Jewish circumcisions that include metzitzah, the oral suctioning of blood from the wound, place newborns at risk of contracting the herpes virus from the mohels who perform it and should be eliminated from the procedure, a new study asserts.

The warning applies to a very limited number of circumcisions, as most mohels these days use a suction device such as a mucus extractor rather than their mouths, the experts point out.

"This is rarely done in the United States, and even in Israel is uncommon," said Dr. George Kaplan, a San Diego pediatric urologist and former member of the American Academy of Pediatrics' task force on circumcision. Kaplan was not involved in the study, which appears in the August issue of Pediatrics.

Moshe D. Tendler of Yeshiva University in New York City and his co-authors evaluated eight newborns with genital herpes simples type 1 (HSV-1) infections after having undergone ritual circumcision.

Most oral herpes cases (cold sores or fever blisters on the mouth) are caused by HSV-1, according to the American Social Health Association, and most genital herpes cases (similar symptoms in the genital area) are caused by HSV-2. But both type 1 and type 2 can occur in the genital area, the oral area or both.

If a person with oral herpes has contact with another person's genital area, it is possible for the other person to get genital herpes, according to the association.

The herpes virus is transmitted through direct skin-to-skin contact. Symptoms such as sores, blisters, bumps or a rash, as well as flu-like symptoms, can occur within days of transmission, but the intensity of symptoms vary greatly from person to person.

In the study, the average interval from the circumcision to the onset of symptoms was about seven days. In all cases, the mohel had performed the ancient practice of orally suctioning the blood after the foreskin was cut.

Six infants needed intravenous therapy with acyclovir (Zovirax), a medication used to treat herpes of the genital and mouth areas. Four had recurrent episodes of genital herpes infections. One developed neurological problems. All four mohels who performed the circumcisions tested positive for herpes antibodies in the blood.

The authors emphasize that they support ritual circumcision but without the oral metzitzah because it might endanger newborns. And, they point out, the oral metzitzah is not part of the religious procedure.

The findings, said Kaplan, "come as no surprise." The recommendation to use the modified ritual, making use of a mucus extractor, is an ideal solution, he added.

More information

To learn more about circumcision, visit the American Academy of Pediatrics.
SOURCES: George Kaplan, M.D., pediatric urologist and clinical professor, surgery and pediatrics, University of California, San Diego, and former member, Task Force on Circumcision, American Academy of Pediatrics; August 2004 Pediatrics
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